Jiglu: BLOKART-NZ: Discussion: Sunday, 15 June 2008

Hi Peter,

Could you provide some info on the format of the event please,

How many races can each driver expect during the week?

Roughly how long/far/laps will the races be?

Regards

Dave Griffin

Phone (+64) 3 325 2169

Mobile (+64) 21 352 595

From:Richard Harrison [mailto:...]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2008 10:06 a.m.
To: ...
Subject: RE: [blokart] World Champs

Hi Trevor,

From the a bay club race day point of view, approximately 90% of our regular racing members have purchased there own transponder so at a club level we charge $5 to hire a transponder to cover the cost of purchasing and maintaining the additional transponders available for hiring. The club will need to replace the transponder when the battery is flat at some stage or replace damaged units before that. Our members who own there transponder and went to Ivanpah, Belgium or Yeppoon did not have to pay a hire fee at those events.

From the worlds point of view as long as you bring a AMB Chipx transponder it will work, so if Auckland club has some or you find a friend that has one commonly used in triathlons. marathons or cycle racing then bring it along.

The track hire fee is set by blokart which they can change at anytime but I understand it is $10 per day.

Cheers

Richard

From:Trevor Pretty [mailto:...]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2008 7:50 a.m.
To: ...
Cc: ...
Subject: Re: [blokart] World Champs

Peter

As you know I've already paid and entered but re-reading this I realise it could be read the wrong way. I was not complaining about the cost per sa, but about the way it was made up. I expect the vast majority of the 150 entrants do not have a transponder, so making it an "extra" when it is in fact mandatory is taking the piss. What is going to happen if I bring a transponder (I know ABC have some) and it does not work with your system? I would have rather have paid a $100 bond (as you have now pointed out they are $165) to ensure I returned it. How many do you expect to loose?

It's the same to race with BBC. I have no idea of how much the "track hire fee" is. $10 to race is not unreasonable. I can see BBC members may not need to hire a transponder, as it could be covered in their club fees and it is normal for club member to pay less to race than non club members, but for all I know the track fee is $50.

If I need a piece of equipment to compete in an event that I would not normally own then I would expect the organizers to provide it as part of the entry fee. Just like the transponders in the Akld. Marathon.

Trevor

Trevor Pretty wrote:

I agree

$25 "transponder hire" on top of $200 is taking the piss IMHO.

I've numbers on my sail! If they want to provide a different system then fine, but why should I pay extra for it?

I see BBC have this "extra" on their race days and I also have to pay "a track hire fee" (cost not stated).

When I first started to race at ABC we where given transponders and then returned them at the end of the day. For FREE!

If they are worried we will nick them, then I don't mind paying a $25 bond. How much are these things anyway?

Haydn wrote:
What happened to this sport being affordable. Its $200 to enter the Worlds and that doesn't even include transponder hire. Does adding 'World' to the title really mean we have to pay that much?
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8–9 knts of breeze to start, a bit of a lull at one stage and then came in about 10 knts for a while before petering out about 3.15. The schools team was there and had a ball in ideal conditions, starting tentatively but then sailing around with the other 20+ sailors. One pair were doing a school media project on blokarts so after sailing they videoed some action, did an interview and took some shots of a blokart all ready to go. Apparently have already talked to Blokart International and the exchamge student will be joining the blokart action when she gets back to Europe. Did an hour of starting and short course racing with a steady improvement for everyone over 10 races. 20 on a short start line didn't make any difference. The last few starts had everyone hitting 2s or 3s with a big bunch fighting for the first inside line. Good to see. With the wind up did some fun stuff around the full course with the youth sailors joining in some starts and racing along with everyone. Allan was back with us after a break and seemed particularly fast. Can't think of an excuse why he sailed past me without any problem. Bit of a worry really. Maybe he'll be in another weight category again! Barbeque about 3 as the wind started to die away.
Next week is Winter Series. See everyone there.
Russell

Hi All

Great forecast for east coast beaches today low tide 11.30am. I am heading to Orewa for a look as not much rain yet might be Ok or if not will head to Omaha. I know very short notice but would be good to see some others for beach blast.

I will report back tonight.

Cheers

Wayne - O

Mobile: 0274 943 887

Sadly John passed away on Saturday.

He was one of the ABCs original blokart members and during his battle with cancer still came down to be involved in the club. For our new members, John was the guy who came and started our races over the past couple of years. He was a current member of our committee and still very active in all parts of the club.

The funeral details:

10.00 am on Tuesday 17 June, at Manukau Memorial Gardens Chapel, 357 Puhinui Road, Papatoetoe.

Russell

Sorry to here the sad news Russell.

I never had the pleasure of meeting John personally but lost my father to cancer 2 years ago.

May I pass on my heart felt regards to Johns family and friends.

To many are taken for us all too young. God bless the time you had and the memories you leave all who new you..

Regards Murray.

Hi Wayne,

Sorry I cant be with you - have a really urgent construction contract must be completed today – paying $150.00 an hour – would you like to help?

Rgds

Bruce

Hi Peter.

I am John Nicholson and I have been appointed to the race committee for the upcoming worlds. It is normal practice for a notice of race to be circulated to all participants well before such an event explaining all details of the race format and the point system to be used. This notice will be finalised shortly and posted early July so I hope this will answer all your questions.

Regards

John Nicholson.

From:Dave Griffin [mailto:...]
Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2008 5:34 p.m.
To: ...
Subject: RE: [blokart] World Champs

Hi Peter,

Could you provide some info on the format of the event please,

How many races can each driver expect during the week?

Roughly how long/far/laps will the races be?

Regards

Dave Griffin

Phone (+64) 3 325 2169

Mobile (+64) 21 352 595

From:Richard Harrison [mailto:...]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2008 10:06 a.m.
To: ...
Subject: RE: [blokart] World Champs

Hi Trevor,

From the a bay club race day point of view, approximately 90% of our regular racing members have purchased there own transponder so at a club level we charge $5 to hire a transponder to cover the cost of purchasing and maintaining the additional transponders available for hiring. The club will need to replace the transponder when the battery is flat at some stage or replace damaged units before that. Our members who own there transponder and went to Ivanpah, Belgium or Yeppoon did not have to pay a hire fee at those events.

From the worlds point of view as long as you bring a AMB Chipx transponder it will work, so if Auckland club has some or you find a friend that has one commonly used in triathlons. marathons or cycle racing then bring it along.

The track hire fee is set by blokart which they can change at anytime but I understand it is $10 per day.

Cheers

Richard

From:Trevor Pretty [mailto:...]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2008 7:50 a.m.
To: ...
Cc: ...
Subject: Re: [blokart] World Champs

Peter

As you know I've already paid and entered but re-reading this I realise it could be read the wrong way. I was not complaining about the cost per sa, but about the way it was made up. I expect the vast majority of the 150 entrants do not have a transponder, so making it an "extra" when it is in fact mandatory is taking the piss. What is going to happen if I bring a transponder (I know ABC have some) and it does not work with your system? I would have rather have paid a $100 bond (as you have now pointed out they are $165) to ensure I returned it. How many do you expect to loose?

It's the same to race with BBC. I have no idea of how much the "track hire fee" is. $10 to race is not unreasonable. I can see BBC members may not need to hire a transponder, as it could be covered in their club fees and it is normal for club member to pay less to race than non club members, but for all I know the track fee is $50.

If I need a piece of equipment to compete in an event that I would not normally own then I would expect the organizers to provide it as part of the entry fee. Just like the transponders in the Akld. Marathon.

Trevor

Trevor Pretty wrote:

I agree

$25 "transponder hire" on top of $200 is taking the piss IMHO.

I've numbers on my sail! If they want to provide a different system then fine, but why should I pay extra for it?

I see BBC have this "extra" on their race days and I also have to pay "a track hire fee" (cost not stated).

When I first started to race at ABC we where given transponders and then returned them at the end of the day. For FREE!

If they are worried we will nick them, then I don't mind paying a $25 bond. How much are these things anyway?

Haydn wrote:
What happened to this sport being affordable. Its $200 to enter the Worlds and that doesn't even include transponder hire. Does adding 'World' to the title really mean we have to pay that much?
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